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		<title>By: Rena</title>
		<link>http://peacearena.org/2008/11/oklahoman-continues-to-blacklist-progressive-community-news/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Rena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red, have you considered a remedial reading program? Or perhaps a course in logic? 

First, it IS unusual for a prayer on the front page of the Oklahoman. This is not opinion, but fact. The way to determine the question is to look at other major dailies and do the math. That you and other Oklahoma Christians take it in stride, approve of and enjoy it is not being debated.

Secondly, the commenter you initially responded to DID &quot;refuse to buy&quot; the paper, just as you are now suggesting she do. So what&#039;s your beef?

You are putting a lot of assumptions into your replies.

No one here has demanded the prayer be removed (though I think it would be an excellent idea, I&#039;ve noted in past posts that doing so now is an impossibility, even if they had a sudden attack of professionalism and wanted to).

Again, the intolerance issue you keep bringing up is obviously projection. Hmmm, perhaps it&#039;s a psych course you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red, have you considered a remedial reading program? Or perhaps a course in logic? </p>
<p>First, it IS unusual for a prayer on the front page of the Oklahoman. This is not opinion, but fact. The way to determine the question is to look at other major dailies and do the math. That you and other Oklahoma Christians take it in stride, approve of and enjoy it is not being debated.</p>
<p>Secondly, the commenter you initially responded to DID &#8220;refuse to buy&#8221; the paper, just as you are now suggesting she do. So what&#8217;s your beef?</p>
<p>You are putting a lot of assumptions into your replies.</p>
<p>No one here has demanded the prayer be removed (though I think it would be an excellent idea, I&#8217;ve noted in past posts that doing so now is an impossibility, even if they had a sudden attack of professionalism and wanted to).</p>
<p>Again, the intolerance issue you keep bringing up is obviously projection. Hmmm, perhaps it&#8217;s a psych course you need.</p>
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		<title>By: red stater</title>
		<link>http://peacearena.org/2008/11/oklahoman-continues-to-blacklist-progressive-community-news/comment-page-1/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>red stater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having a prayer on the front page of a newspaper that serves perhaps the largest % per capita of Christian subscribers in all the land is not unusual at all but merely recognizing who it&#039;s customers are.

Nobody is forced to read the prayer, agree with the prayer, believe the prayer or believe that God does or does not exist. 

There is a lot of offensive stuff in newspapers every day... things that i disagree with and things that offend me, such is free speech my friends.

I canceled my subscription to the Denver Post due to it&#039;s extreme leftist agenda on virtually every page... I don&#039;t think they should ban the Denver Post or change it.

Get over yourselves and learn to tolerate other views.
red</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a prayer on the front page of a newspaper that serves perhaps the largest % per capita of Christian subscribers in all the land is not unusual at all but merely recognizing who it&#8217;s customers are.</p>
<p>Nobody is forced to read the prayer, agree with the prayer, believe the prayer or believe that God does or does not exist. </p>
<p>There is a lot of offensive stuff in newspapers every day&#8230; things that i disagree with and things that offend me, such is free speech my friends.</p>
<p>I canceled my subscription to the Denver Post due to it&#8217;s extreme leftist agenda on virtually every page&#8230; I don&#8217;t think they should ban the Denver Post or change it.</p>
<p>Get over yourselves and learn to tolerate other views.<br />
red</p>
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		<title>By: Rena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>red, 

nothing wrong with prayer, but having one on the front page of a major daily newspaper in the U.S. is unusual, to say the least. Maybe you&#039;ve never traveled or read other papers; it is well outside the norm. 

To many -- maybe not Oklahomans who have grown up with it, but many of the rest of the planet&#039;s educated inhabitants who haven&#039;t -- it calls into question the objectivity and professionalism of the publication. 

There might be other papers in the world that print daily prayers, but they would likely be in fundamentalist countries where the state is run by the religious leaders -- not Western democracies. 

As for horoscopes, are you equating astrology with Christianity? Didn&#039;t think so. 

And you may have noticed, the Oklahoman&#039;s owners are not putting the astrology on the front page, but rather next to the crossword puzzle and Dear Abby. If they started featuring it on page 1, how would you react? Would it mean something different than where it currently is located?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>red, </p>
<p>nothing wrong with prayer, but having one on the front page of a major daily newspaper in the U.S. is unusual, to say the least. Maybe you&#8217;ve never traveled or read other papers; it is well outside the norm. </p>
<p>To many &#8212; maybe not Oklahomans who have grown up with it, but many of the rest of the planet&#8217;s educated inhabitants who haven&#8217;t &#8212; it calls into question the objectivity and professionalism of the publication. </p>
<p>There might be other papers in the world that print daily prayers, but they would likely be in fundamentalist countries where the state is run by the religious leaders &#8212; not Western democracies. </p>
<p>As for horoscopes, are you equating astrology with Christianity? Didn&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>And you may have noticed, the Oklahoman&#8217;s owners are not putting the astrology on the front page, but rather next to the crossword puzzle and Dear Abby. If they started featuring it on page 1, how would you react? Would it mean something different than where it currently is located?</p>
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		<title>By: dustbury.com &#187; Selective coverage?</title>
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		<dc:creator>dustbury.com &#187; Selective coverage?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wasn&#8217;t anything in the Oklahoman about Saturday&#8217;s Join the Impact! march, about which Rena complains:  [T]he 300 that attended the &#8230; rally in Oklahoma City (not to mention the thousands across [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wasn&#8217;t anything in the Oklahoman about Saturday&#8217;s Join the Impact! march, about which Rena complains:  [T]he 300 that attended the &#8230; rally in Oklahoma City (not to mention the thousands across [...]</p>
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		<title>By: red stater</title>
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		<dc:creator>red stater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG... not a PRAYER!!!!! How horrible.

btw- were you emotionally traumatized from their printing horoscopes too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG&#8230; not a PRAYER!!!!! How horrible.</p>
<p>btw- were you emotionally traumatized from their printing horoscopes too?</p>
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		<title>By: Skye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refuse to buy the Oklahoman on several grounds. 
It is the ONLY paper I know of in the country that prints a christian prayer on the front page. Friends from other parts of the country can&#039;t imagine that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refuse to buy the Oklahoman on several grounds.<br />
It is the ONLY paper I know of in the country that prints a christian prayer on the front page. Friends from other parts of the country can&#8217;t imagine that.</p>
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